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[7:42]  CoolCat Whitman: Hello everyone. Hope in im the right place.
[7:43]  Newton Apogee: Seems to be!
[7:43]  CoolCat Whitman: In my class, when I am assessing the students, they turn in notecards to me each day.
[7:44]  CoolCat Whitman: Gotta rename that notecard WHEN YOU MAKE IT. Otherwise you can't find out what you did.
[7:44]  2B Writer: Great interaction
[7:44]  CoolCat Whitman: Rename everything.
[7:45]  2B Writer: We'll use if for Suni's presentation
[7:45]  Suni Homewood: What a crowd!
[7:45]  2B Writer: Anyone have any questions to get ready for the live event?
[7:45]  Suni Homewood: Awesome!
[7:46]  2B Writer: What a crowd!!!!
[7:46]  2B Writer: They heard you were coming
[7:46]  2B Writer: Any questions I can help with at DPI?
[7:47]  2B Writer: and how to zoom in on the slide
[7:47]  2B Writer: We've learned to local/public chat, IM (whisper), see chat history
[7:47]  2B Writer: and how to make a friend and accept a notecard
[7:47]  Suni Homewood: How long has everyone been in here?
[7:47]  2B Writer: You're ready for the event
[7:48]  2B Writer: Mere minutes for some, Suni
[7:48]  2B Writer: We'll do a voice check, Suni
[7:48]  Suni Homewood: okay -
[7:48]  Eraflewr Yuhara: yeah! I got on with the hardwire now.
[7:49]  Eraflewr Yuhara: no longer experiencing a tape delay
[7:49]  Suni Homewood: This is truly wonderful, 2B! What a great event!
[7:53]  Eraflewr Yuhara: how do I leave the chat box up but only show the last few comments. the history shows now and it is in my way.
[7:54]  Suni Homewood: There is a tab in the lower right hand corner you can drag it up to shorten it - does that help?
[7:55]  Eraflewr Yuhara: a little, but it is still in my way
[7:56]  Eraflewr Yuhara: ajax, i can barely hear you
[7:58]  2B Writer: Suni, let's do a voice test
[7:59]  2B Writer: Can you hear me, Suni?
[7:59]  CoolCat Whitman: OK, I'm asleep.
[7:59]  Suni Homewood: no
[7:59]  2B Writer: Oh, are you in the bookgene
[7:59]  Suni Homewood: I'm behind you
[7:59]  Suni Homewood: I'm not sure how to chat by voice wiht just one person
[8:00]  2B Writer: OH, don't worry about 1to 1
[8:00]  2B Writer: we're on break so just talk out loud if you can hear me
[8:00]  Suni Homewood: can you do voice 1 to 1?
[8:00]  2B Writer: yes, but not necessry now
[8:00]  CoolCat Whitman: Playing with everything here. You all have done a good job.
[8:00]  Suni Homewood: I can't hear you
[8:00]  2B Writer: Thanks, CoolCat
[8:01]  CoolCat Whitman: All my students have the last name of Radikal b/c they feel Radical I guess.
[8:01]  CoolCat Whitman: Love the name horsedancer -- you must like horses.
[8:01]  Newton Apogee: Good way to identify them too
[8:01]  CoolCat Whitman: I love how you're using the backchannel to assess book club facilitators, Cris, that is genius. I learned something already.
[8:01]  Suni Homewood: can you hear me?
[8:02]  Suni Homewood: I see your voice going and mine, too, but no audio
[8:02]  CoolCat Whitman: Cris taught me how to present in SL -- she is one of the best. Cris Crissman totally ROCKS THE HOUSE.
[8:02]  2B Writer: Suni, keep talking
[8:02]  Impact String: DPI is not hearing Suni
[8:03]  Impact String: ok'
[8:03]  CoolCat Whitman: Are we using the screen above? If you present, you want everyone to sit so they can see the speaker. So you might want to sit.
[8:04]  Eraflewr Yuhara: where are wer supposed to be looking?
[8:04]  Impact String: We can hear you suni
[8:04]  Eraflewr Yuhara: perfect
[8:05]  Peggywrae Anthony: Above the speaker--the presently black screen
[8:05]  Impact String: Where will the slides display?
[8:07]  CoolCat Whitman: oit just shot me into the sky.
[8:07]  CoolCat Whitman: Backchanneling is great.
[8:07]  Impact String: Where are the slides going to appear?
[8:08]  CoolCat Whitman: I LOVE THIS!!!
[8:08]  Lindsay Blazer: no
[8:08]  CoolCat Whitman: Cool - instapoll. ;-)
[8:08]  2B Writer: Very good! Very good!
[8:08]  Impact String: Cris - we do not know where to look for the slides
[8:08]  CoolCat Whitman: I clicked blue. ;-)
[8:08]  CoolCat Whitman: Neato bandito.
[8:09]  neener Ferina: does it register votes more than once
[8:09]  Peggywrae Anthony: It can be reset.
[8:09]  CoolCat Whitman: Instapoll. Don't think I can take credit for that.
[8:09]  CoolCat Whitman: The instant poll is great. Love it.
[8:09]  Peggywrae Anthony: Bill Lovin--Ajax--developed or found it.
[8:09]  CoolCat Whitman: I WANT THE SCRIPT. WHO DID THIS!!!
[8:09]  Lindsay Blazer: yes
[8:10]  2B Writer: Thank you, Suni
[8:10]  CoolCat Whitman: I cannot stand a million bullet points. The biggest struggle with presentation zen is how long it takes to make a preso.
[8:11]  CoolCat Whitman: If you can read the powerpoint, what is the point if you type the words there.
[8:11]  2B Writer: Bullets killl
[8:11]  2B Writer: Garr Reynolds is a master
[8:11]  2B Writer: Look up to the left of the speaker who is on the podium
[8:11]  2B Writer: You'll see a huge sign/screen
[8:12]  CoolCat Whitman: After I stopped getting stuck in walls, this environment really grows on you.
[8:12]  2B Writer: book jacket?
[8:12]  CoolCat Whitman: Absolutely - the backchannel is so important -- we'll use one iin the keynote tomorrow.
[8:12]  2B Writer: the screen is up in the air to Suni's left if you're facing her
[8:13]  CoolCat Whitman: Instant feedback -- 2B is called a "backchannel moderator" a person who drops links in the backchannel is called a "Google Jockey"
[8:13]  2B Writer: It's so much fun to use the back channel
[8:13]  2B Writer: Let's keep it rocking
[8:13]  2B Writer: so how many of you have read Presentation Zen
[8:13]  2B Writer: oh go ahead and click
[8:13]  Lindsay Blazer: I have it
[8:13]  CoolCat Whitman: I have read Presentation Zen.
[8:13]  2B Writer: Garr Reynolds believes that it is the essence -- at every stage
[8:14]  CoolCat Whitman: I use istockphotos heavily for my presentations. Costs money but GREAT photos and the license issues are handled.
[8:14]  CoolCat Whitman: It takes more time to find the photographs than it does to draft what to say.
[8:14]  Horsedancer Gearz: I plan to read it.
[8:14]  2B Writer: Oh, and Daniel Pink in a Whole new Mind says that design is not something that you add on at the end
[8:14]  2B Writer: You use great photos, CoolCat
[8:14]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Writer -- Exactly - Design is core to the message.
[8:14]  CoolCat Whitman: To me, being able to make an effective design is as important as constructing a good essay.
[8:14]  2B Writer: If you buy the book, then you get some free photos from iStock
[8:14]  2B Writer: that will get you stated
[8:15]  2B Writer: Garr uses iStock, too
[8:15]  CoolCat Whitman: @2BWriter - I didn't get it free -- Oops.
[8:15]  2B Writer: Well, you just get a few
[8:15]  2B Writer: just enough to get you hooked ;-)
[8:15]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Writer - Guy Kawasaki uses iStock and he is the one who pointed to Garr for me.
[8:15]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B The only thing is you cannot allow free download on slideshare, etc. if you use istock photos.
[8:15]  2B Writer: Cool. Guy did the preface as a slide show for Present ation Zen
[8:15]  CoolCat Whitman: So it limits sharing but in some ways that keeps you from getting people "stealing" in a bad way, I guess.
[8:15]  2B Writer: That's right. that's important to let people know
[8:16]  Impact String: Lindsay Blazer suggested FlickR Creative Commons content to me
[8:16]  neener Ferina: love the acceptance of the idea of multi tasking for the audience- this has been ignored or even discouraged
[8:16]  CoolCat Whitman: Yes, it just takes SOOOOOO long to find the photo there.
[8:16]  2B Writer: Yes, and I use Wiipedia a lot -- much free of copyright
[8:16]  CoolCat Whitman: Most of the time I have about 20 slides for the first 2 minutes of a presentation.
[8:16]  CoolCat Whitman: I have between 120 -150 slides for a 50 minute presentation.
[8:16]  2B Writer: Wow! That's really visual
[8:16]  2B Writer: I can't wait to see you present, CoolCat
[8:16]  CoolCat Whitman: But when people see you have 150 slides you have to quickly explain -- OH, I use Garr Reynolds' approach.
[8:17]  2B Writer: I mean i have on Elluminate and SL but not f2f
[8:17]  CoolCat Whitman: Because if you tell someone you have 150 slides they will RUN SCREAMING from the room!
[8:17]  2B Writer: Any questios for Suni?
[8:17]  CoolCat Whitman: The question is- who is teaching this in schools? Is Nonverbal communication taught in schools?
[8:17]  2B Writer: She really wants us to talk i up
[8:17]  2B Writer: You know I worry so much about our senior project
[8:18]  2B Writer: and how kids are learnig from teachers who haven't had this insight or training
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[8:18]  2B Writer: do you guys at DPI think teachers understand the latest in presentation design?
[8:18]  Connected
[8:18]  Lindsay Blazer: no
[8:18]  Tarcow Loon: IS writing being taught by anyone in this environment?
[8:19]  CoolCat Whitman: @Tarcow - my studnets have to write on their notecards - and I assess them on their explanations on that.
[8:19]  2B Writer: That's a great idea, Tarcow. I think there probably is
[8:19]  neener Ferina: kids are not being asked to do anything different- but could wow everyone if given freedom
[8:19]  CoolCat Whitman: We have a digital island called Digiteen Island - it is on reactiongrid and we use opensim
[8:19]  2B Writer: yes, notecards are great for wrters' circles
[8:19]  CoolCat Whitman: @neener - Pushing them to use photos AND creative commons
[8:19]  Lindsay Blazer: my friends who attend professional meetings - medicine & psychology --hate ppt.
[8:19]  CoolCat Whitman: @2BWriter - I grade off of notecards -- notecards are the core of virtual world pedagogy and assessment for me.
[8:19]  2B Writer: Kids are so visual and yes we need to reach teachers
[8:19]  CoolCat Whitman: I wish notecards were more flexible but they are great for communicating.
[8:20]  2B Writer: a skill is learning how to organize your notecards/-)
[8:20]  Tarcow Loon: The notecards are a good idea is there a character limit to it?
[8:20]  Zulima Button: teachers aren't receiving the training to move beyond pp
[8:20]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Writer - YES -- but you can put notecards in notecards
[8:20]  Eraflewr Yuhara: Ii thin ppt has a bad rep becausethere are so many done poorly
[8:20]  CoolCat Whitman: Yes but character limits are a good thing.
[8:20]  2B Writer: Do you alll think that we should do more on presentation skills for teachers
[8:20]  neener Ferina: one of the best practices is complete interaction
[8:20]  CoolCat Whitman: I have them embed their work and their words and landmarks.
[8:20]  2B Writer: yes, Zulima
[8:20]  Zulima Button: yes..more PD
[8:20]  CoolCat Whitman: Do teachers consider presentations "real" classwork.
[8:20]  2B Writer: in every content area
[8:20]  Nicholas Fhloston: it's about the art of the ppt that can determine how interested your viewers will be
[8:21]  CoolCat Whitman: Isn't there still a stigma AGAINST Non paper-based work.
[8:21]  Zulima Button: Teachers are hungry for cool tools that they can easily use
[8:21]  2B Writer: no, good point. I don't hink presenations
[8:21]  Tarcow Loon: How long would it take for a teacher to become comfortable enough to use this type of tool?
[8:21]  CoolCat Whitman: Many teachers and administrators think it is not real unless it is on paper
[8:21]  CoolCat Whitman: I mean, how many teachers have kids create powerpoint and then print it to grade it.
[8:21]  CoolCat Whitman: What does that teach?
[8:21]  Eraflewr Yuhara: would teachers rather create their own ppt or have them included as part of curriculum packages
[8:21]  2B Writer: exactly, they use the PPTs as their notes
[8:21]  2B Writer: isn't that wild
[8:21]  2B Writer: yes we can!
[8:21]  CoolCat Whitman: @Eraflewr - I get powerpoint presos with my books but now I ignore them.
[8:21]  Newton Apogee: @Tarcow - I think the key is for the teacher to let go just a bit and be comfortable with not being the "expert" and rather providing an environment of collaborative learning with their students. Project-based...
[8:22]  Zulima Button: how can ppt encourage interaction?
[8:22]  CoolCat Whitman: Unless it is a chart I need - why usi t.
[8:22]  neener Ferina: message is clear- content in important not the skill- exactly opposite of 21st centruy skills
[8:22]  Nicholas Fhloston: as a college student I was in the national competition for presentation and I know that there are great techniques that can make your ppt grab the audience
[8:22]  CoolCat Whitman: Really, take your powerpoint and pull into Google Docs and you have a backchannel and can keep them on the same slide.
[8:22]  2B Writer: what a great backchannel
[8:22]  CoolCat Whitman: You have to save it as a ppt file though.
[8:22]  2B Writer: wow, neer
[8:22]  2B Writer: that's so true
[8:22]  Eraflewr Yuhara: if you use theclickers, you can get instant feedback during the presentation
[8:22]  CoolCat Whitman: It is SOOO much more than about powerpoint - it is about context sensitive presenting.
[8:22]  2B Writer: see we have several threads going on
[8:23]  2B Writer: classroom clickers are good -- that's good
[8:23]  Zulima Button: how do we get these tools in the hands of teachers?
[8:23]  2B Writer: can you have a backchannel while PPT is going on?
[8:23]  CoolCat Whitman: You can embed polleverywhere into a powerpoint.
[8:23]  2B Writer: Why not?
[8:23]  CoolCat Whitman: Will od that tomorrow.
[8:23]  Tarcow Loon: How many presentations can be housed on a typical island?
[8:23]  Eraflewr Yuhara: clickers=handheld input device
[8:23]  CoolCat Whitman: @2Bwriter in Google Docs, yes.
[8:23]  CoolCat Whitman: Tomorrow the backchannel will be in chatzy
[8:23]  Horsedancer Gearz: Can the clickers be used to vote *(colors)?
[8:23]  Lindsay Blazer: what about Keynote
[8:23]  CoolCat Whitman: But why do we want Shrek -- because he's funny
[8:23]  Tarcow Loon: Do you open your presentation up to open source type pf environement?
[8:23]  Leah Raleigh: yes interactivity is good, I am lucky enough to have a smartboard in my classroom so for every 2 slides that I do I have an interactive slide where the students come up and do stuff
[8:23]  2B Writer: I wondered if Chatzy would be cool
[8:24]  CoolCat Whitman: @lindsay - keynote users swear by it.
[8:24]  CoolCat Whitman: @Leah - I fight wiht my smartboard -- do so much more in other ways now.
[8:24]  Nicholas Fhloston: Shrek is funn but a lot of people don't know who peter griffin is
[8:24]  CoolCat Whitman: @Leah -- what type of program do you have to set things up.
[8:24]  2B Writer: Yes, we've found that having an Instant Poll and then a reflective question works well
[8:24]  Tarcow Loon: Has anyone tried to use this as a type of substittue in a classroom?
[8:24]  2B Writer: I agree, Nicholas ;-)
[8:24]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Writer instant polls keep the audience engaged.
[8:24]  Lindsay Blazer: I knew none of the names except Shrek
[8:25]  2B Writer: Yes, and then follow through with reflecive question
[8:25]  CoolCat Whitman: @Lindsay - AN HONEST PERSON. I like that.
[8:25]  Leah Raleigh: @CoolCat...I used the Smart notebook, and it just takes a lot of playing around...
[8:25]  CoolCat Whitman: YES, audience is so important. Comes back to context sensitive presenting.
[8:25]  Lindsay Blazer: what about short pres to intro
[8:25]  2B Writer: Has anyone tried back channel in f2f classrooom, is that the quetion
[8:25]  Nicholas Fhloston: Peter Griffin is from family guy
[8:25]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Write r- I backchannel all the time
[8:25]  CoolCat Whitman: Backchannels are perfect for test review - you archive them.
[8:25]  CoolCat Whitman: Yes.
[8:25]  2B Writer: I do wonder if it's a way to meet all the laearning styles
[8:26]  Lindsay Blazer: wish this had been around when I was in school
[8:26]  CoolCat Whitman: Also, for ticket to leave. Have them post a response to a question.
[8:26]  2B Writer: you have kids who wouldn't speak up in class who would be so into it
[8:26]  Nicholas Fhloston: discussion boards are also great
[8:26]  2B Writer: I've had some real success stories
[8:26]  CoolCat Whitman: Kathy schrock and I were just talking about how backchannel sare better assessment tools than clickers.
[8:26]  2B Writer: students learn to try out their academinc selves in the writig space -- a safe space
[8:26]  Nicholas Fhloston: esp with the way kids communicate today, it''s so much easier for them to post comments and get feedback even from the ones who don't like to speak in class
[8:26]  Lindsay Blazer: @CoolCath. that's great
[8:26]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Write r- YES -- quiet kids LOVE backchannels and the great thing is that there is spillover into the verbal conversation.
[8:27]  2B Writer: Does anyone have a question i should bring to Suni?
[8:27]  2B Writer: We're running short on time
[8:27]  CoolCat Whitman: Virtual worlds and backchannels engage those kids who are more quiet in POEWRFUL ways -- the more verbal a child the less likely they will participate in backchannel.
[8:27]  CoolCat Whitman: The quieter a child, the more likely they are to participate in the backchannel, I've seen.
[8:27]  Lindsay Blazer: It's about storytelling and matching visual to tell the story
[8:27]  2B Writer: I think that virtual worlds are a great way to differentiate instruction
[8:27]  CoolCat Whitman: I have a private chatzy room - like $9 a year to take ads off and I can change the password.
[8:27]  2B Writer: it's a way
[8:27]  Nicholas Fhloston: true coolcat, it's a great way to get the potential out of the quieter kids
[8:27]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Write r- Virtual words are phenomenal ways -- it needs to get a bit easier though.
[8:28]  Tarcow Loon: What do you all mean by backchannel?
[8:28]  2B Writer: yes, they're on the www.Literacy2learn.org site
[8:28]  CoolCat Whitman: I've had to invent polite ways to curse.
[8:28]  2B Writer: what we're doing now
[8:28]  Lindsay Blazer: I love Flicr CC
[8:28]  2B Writer: talking behind the scenes
[8:28]  Tarcow Loon: Oh OK -- thanks
[8:28]  Nicholas Fhloston: just kind of a secondary option for the main
[8:28]  2B Writer: thanks for asking Tarcow
[8:28]  CoolCat Whitman: @Tarcow - A backchannel is a "live chat that accompanies a live presentation"
[8:28]  2B Writer: It informs the front channel and gives everyone engaged
[8:28]  CoolCat Whitman: @Tacow You just exibiled EXCELLENT backchannel actions.
[8:28]  Lindsay Blazer: wish I could spell
[8:28]  Nicholas Fhloston: hah
[8:28]  Tarcow Loon: Thanks
[8:29]  CoolCat Whitman: Just the point of the backchannel - instead of you getting frustrated you have just learned.
[8:29]  2B Writer: Do you think kids would like this Tarcow?
[8:29]  Tarcow Loon: Yes
[8:29]  2B Writer: Nicholas, how about it?
[8:29]  2B Writer: never chocolate
[8:29]  Lindsay Blazer: Beer, I hate the taste
[8:29]  Zulima Button: Kids would love this
[8:29]  CoolCat Whitman: @Tarcow - AT FIRST, however, give them time to sandbox.
[8:29]  Zulima Button: teachers would be scared to death
[8:29]  Tarcow Loon: Especially my middle schoolers
[8:29]  2B Writer: Isnt't he instant poll cool?
[8:29]  CoolCat Whitman: The men voted chocoldate because I DIDN'T.
[8:29]  CoolCat Whitman: Give me chocolate.
[8:29]  Eraflewr Yuhara: may be it is my connection, but I think the backchat is too slow
[8:29]  Nicholas Fhloston: it's a geat way to get instant feed back
[8:30]  CoolCat Whitman: So, take them into the backchannel but teach them how -- I assess them on backchannel participate.
[8:30]  CoolCat Whitman: participation
[8:30]  2B Writer: Hopefully, this will help everyone be eager and confident with your next SL live event
[8:30]  CoolCat Whitman: Yes, SL backchannel has a delay.
[8:30]  2B Writer: Which btw we have one on Monday
[8:30]  Tarcow Loon: Can you have the students actually create the island itself?
[8:30]  CoolCat Whitman: We're going to try chatzy tomorrow so take your laptops - have had 150 in a room at once may top it out tomorrow.
[8:30]  2B Writer: March 9, at 1:30 Slo
[8:30]  2B Writer: slt
[8:30]  CoolCat Whitman: @Tarcow - we started with just grass on our island
[8:30]  2B Writer: will talk more
[8:30]  2B Writer: Tooo cool
[8:30]  CoolCat Whitman: Love this slide.
[8:30]  2B Writer: do you know if anyone have videotaped a classsroom with a backchannel going?
[8:30]  2B Writer: i'd love to film that
[8:31]  Tarcow Loon: that would be cool
[8:31]  Kristylou Wirefly: how do you keep kids focused on the backchannel? Do they keep up?
[8:31]  2B Writer: any other questions you guys
[8:31]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Writer - Cheri Toledo has been studying backchannels.
[8:31]  2B Writer: right, Kristylou, if kids are typign then they are definitley busy
[8:31]  Tarcow Loon: I have to improve my chat typing skills to keep up
[8:31]  2B Writer: cool. thansk for the name
[8:31]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B Writer you just have to teach them how to do it correctly.
[8:31]  2B Writer: i'll have it here since i'm arching our chat
[8:31]  CoolCat Whitman: I appoint a Moderator and a Google jockey each time
[8:31]  Horsedancer Gearz: I bet students keep up better than us adults who are used to focusing on one thing at a time...the multiple inputs are easier for them I believe.
[8:32]  Eraflewr Yuhara: that's a newspaper rule
[8:32]  CoolCat Whitman: @Horsedancer - they'll hijack the backchannel if you don't watch it
[8:32]  Eraflewr Yuhara: facing in I mean
[8:32]  2B Writer: isn't this a 21st centur skill we've doing now?
[8:32]  CoolCat Whitman: I put it on the board and hold them accountable - give them a daily participation grade
[8:32]  2B Writer: we have lots of tasks going on at on time
[8:32]  Kristylou Wirefly: yes, the hijack is what I am worried about!
[8:32]  Nicholas Fhloston: it gets easier as you go, just depends on how much you use it, kind of just like learning anything else
[8:32]  CoolCat Whitman: You have to hold them accountable - if they say something innappropriate in the chat it is like saying it out loud.
[8:32]  2B Writer: we are totally engaged and just short of overwheilmed
[8:32]  CoolCat Whitman: @Kristylou - easy to handle though -- let them sandbox and then take into "professional" mode
[8:32]  2B Writer: I've hit flow here before and it's cool
[8:33]  CoolCat Whitman: Hold them accountable and keep them focused - point out good behavior - handle poor behavior -- archiv eit and assess it.
[8:33]  2B Writer: do you all pracitce desing principleds in your prsentations?
[8:33]  2B Writer: are you picking up some ideas
[8:33]  Zulima Button: I am feeling inadequate now :-)
[8:33]  2B Writer: for engagement as well as for design
[8:33]  CoolCat Whitman: You can print out the early backchannels and mark the positive behaviors with a highlighter for bonus - post by the door.
[8:33]  Zulima Button: definitely getting ideas
[8:33]  Kristylou Wirefly: Should we allow text shortcuts in an english course?
[8:33]  2B Writer: well, we have such poor models
[8:33]  neener Ferina: beautiful application of the term parrallel structure
[8:33]  CoolCat Whitman: @Kristylou - in backchannel maybe -- in writing on the web N"O --
[8:34]  Eraflewr Yuhara: i can type fast. the slow part is my brain
[8:34]  2B Writer: do you remember Chip form Made to Stick who presented at DPI agency meetin last year?
[8:34]  CoolCat Whitman: If people use Google Translate it doesn't translate well - IM speak is RUDE to non english speakers
[8:34]  Zulima Button: loved chip
[8:34]  Peggywrae Anthony: Me, too, Zulima, I'll be embarrassed tomorrow!
[8:34]  Horsedancer Gearz: I thought I observed appropriate design principles...but I'm seeing I need to rethink and update my thinking!
[8:34]  2B Writer: I called him and h'ed not read this book but knew of the principles and lived hem
[8:34]  CoolCat Whitman: If someone puts imspeak in a blog or wiki - automatically -10 up front.
[8:34]  2B Writer: Garr has some videos on line that are good to watch
[8:34]  Zulima Button: minus 10 points?
[8:34]  CoolCat Whitman: @Horsedancer - it was upsetting to me when I read the book and had to hibernate and redo everything.
[8:35]  2B Writer: YouTube
[8:35]  2B Writer: you can find hi on YouTube
[8:35]  2B Writer: his hotel room one is better than the google one
[8:35]  CoolCat Whitman: imspeak wreaks havoc with google translate
[8:35]  neener Ferina: online where?
[8:35]  CoolCat Whitman: @Zulima - -YES -- imspeak in formal writing is ano no for my students b/c they are collaborating with pepole around the world.
[8:35]  Horsedancer Gearz: Then there's hope I can convert!
[8:35]  Zulima Button: I loved the irony following chip's presentation
[8:35]  Tarcow Loon: Could your island end up next to something that is not appropriate? Or does it matter?
[8:35]  CoolCat Whitman: We have to be good digital citizens with the use of our language.
[8:35]  2B Writer: and his blog presentiatonn zen blog is great with tips and examples
[8:35]  Zulima Button: Do you find students can switch easily b/t im and standard once you call their attention to it?
[8:36]  Zulima Button: I approach it as code switching
[8:36]  Eraflewr Yuhara: but at least we should model good tecdhniques
[8:36]  CoolCat Whitman: See what a rich learning environment this is - you're learning second life, presentation skills, backchanneling, teaching - this is a project based learning environment.
[8:36]  Nicholas Fhloston: not really, they get set into one way I've seen it in papers for english that they have used chat text
[8:36]  CoolCat Whitman: Look how RICH this is. This is the way it needs to be. This is the way to do it.
[8:36]  CoolCat Whitman: @Nicholas - if you're chatting it is something you can't help. But I think imspeak is NOT a good idea.
[8:36]  2B Writer: for continual learning, see Zen's blog
[8:37]  CoolCat Whitman: Just after collaborating globally -- it is very ethnocentric to use imspeak -- not everyone speaks English fluently.
[8:37]  Zulima Button: I have students talk about the purpose of IM versus standard
[8:37]  Eraflewr Yuhara: i can type the real words faster than I can translate to IMspeak in my head
[8:37]  Nicholas Fhloston: very true
[8:37]  2B Writer: we teach in Englishg that there are differnet modes/differnt audeitne
[8:37]  CoolCat Whitman: @Zulima -- YES!!!
[8:37]  Lindsay Blazer: oh yes
[8:37]  Zulima Button: compare passages--how does it change tone, purpose, etc...
[8:37]  CoolCat Whitman: @Zulima - helping students understand the appropriate context of communication is VITAL.
[8:37]  Zulima Button: YES
[8:37]  CoolCat Whitman: Great great great teaching, Zulima
[8:38]  Lindsay Blazer: thanks
[8:38]  Eraflewr Yuhara: good question
[8:38]  Zulima Button: I love the site that translates standard into text
[8:38]  Zulima Button: emily dickinson in text-speak--love it
[8:38]  CoolCat Whitman: OK, so consider this -- a kid signs up in SL and gets the name of a teacher or principal and does BAD THINGS.
[8:38]  CoolCat Whitman: What does the impersonation of an administrator / teacher mean.
[8:38]  Lindsay Blazer: policy?
[8:39]  CoolCat Whitman: I know of a prinicpal who lost his job b/c a student pretended to be him.
[8:39]  2B Writer: you know there was an acuala case of a teen doing this on Facebook
[8:39]  Nicholas Fhloston: that would go back to local computer usage policy
[8:39]  2B Writer: got suspended
[8:39]  CoolCat Whitman: @2B write r-- YES!
[8:39]  CoolCat Whitman: Discussing these identity issues with kids is SO IMPORTANT.
[8:39]  Zulima Button: haven't we experienced similar misconduct with social networking?
[8:39]  Zulima Button: myspace? facebook?
[8:39]  Lindsay Blazer: just like real life
[8:39]  CoolCat Whitman: @Zulima - yes - and the non understanding of identity issues - this is ESSENTIAL to discuss
[8:39]  CoolCat Whitman: I mean how many kids understand the policy.
[8:39]  Nicholas Fhloston: we've seen that being used anyway, it's something that would have to be an on your honor type thing
[8:39]  2B Writer: felt her act was much too punished
[8:39]  CoolCat Whitman: policy and practice are not the same
[8:39]  neener Ferina: face to face is just a webcam folks
[8:40]  Eraflewr Yuhara: critical that teachers do things differently for DL, not just transfer the F2F class to online
[8:40]  2B Writer: this has been a great backchannel
[8:40]  Zulima Button: i have seen react swiftly to this type of misconduct
[8:40]  CoolCat Whitman: We have to discuss identity theft, identity, context, non verbal communications - these are my takeaways.
[8:40]  2B Writer: maybe kids will lern in virtrual worlds
[8:40]  Nicholas Fhloston: I'd like to imagine that most the kids that are allowed to use a program like this would understand the implications of what they are doing
[8:40]  Lindsay Blazer: clap,clap, clap
[8:40]  CoolCat Whitman: @2BWriter - Yes -- leraning about impersonation is really important
[8:40]  Zulima Button: but aren;t these skills our students will need as adults??
[8:40]  CoolCat Whitman: @Zulima _- YES!!!!
[8:40]  2B Writer: Very good! Very good!
[8:40]  neener Ferina: thanks
[8:40]  Newton Apogee: Thank you
[8:40]  Horsedancer Gearz: Bye!
[8:41]  neener Ferina: clapp
[8:41]  Tarcow Loon: thanks
[8:41]  CoolCat Whitman: Gosh Zulima -- wave at me. I am friending you.
[8:41]  Impact String: Thanks, Suni!
[8:41]  Eraflewr Yuhara: good
[8:41]  Zulima Button is Online
[8:41]  Lindsay Blazer: yes
[8:41]  Horsedancer Gearz: Enjoyed it!
[8:41]  neener Ferina: yes
[8:41]  Zulima Button: got it
[8:41]  Zulima Button: how to type
[8:41]  Lindsay Blazer: network issues
[8:41]  Eraflewr Yuhara: I'm still frustrated by the slow connection. it is better now, maybe some people signed off.
[8:42]  CoolCat Whitman: OK, so I don't know how to save the backchannel.
[8:42]  neener Ferina: mapping issues
[8:42]  Zulima Button: I was lost for part of the presentation...I was in the desert changing my clothes
[8:42]  Zulima Button: and hair
[8:42]  Zulima Button: :-)
[8:42]  Impact String: I did not find the instant poll option until farther into the presentation but I really like it as a way to get some interactivity
[8:42]  Tarcow Loon: Improving the typing speed -- and -- creating the slideshow feature
[8:42]  2B Writer: well, you got back in time to participate well , Zulmina
[8:42]  Lindsay Blazer: talk chat
[8:42]  2B Writer: oh, we're talking slide show now
[8:42]  Eraflewr Yuhara: also, people kept getting in front of me so i couldn't see the screen or the instant poll
[8:42]  CoolCat Whitman: I have local chat up.
[8:42]  neener Ferina: difference between live and inactive posters
[8:42]  CoolCat Whitman: Don't see how to save it.
[8:42]  2B Writer: oh, dear
[8:42]  Nicholas Fhloston: that's why I chose to fly
[8:43]  CoolCat Whitman: So, how do I save this.
[8:43]  Impact String: I guess the backchannel has to substitute audience audio interactivity
[8:43]  2B Writer: maybe use the ctrol + alt to raise and lower your view
[8:43]  2B Writer: or the camera contrils
[8:43]  neener Ferina: want to know more about USB connection with game controller
[8:43]  2B Writer: it does with a large group, Impact
[8:43]  2B Writer: there was no way today with the groups coming from two locations
[8:43]  2B Writer: last time Suni presented we used voice chat
[8:43]  Impact String: OK - I need to know more about that...
[8:43]  2B Writer: that's right
[8:43]  CoolCat Whitman: Aurggh I cannot figure out how to save this thing. I get so frustrated.
[8:43]  Nicholas Fhloston: @eraflewr you can fly so you can just elevate yourself above the crowd
[8:44]  Impact String: Need to know how to come back to the presentation later - save it...
[8:44]  Eraflewr Yuhara: actually, raised the view, then people would fly in front of my camera
[8:44]  neener Ferina: how to set up an area or island
[8:44]  2B Writer: guess we need to teach folks to stay in one place if they can
[8:44]  2B Writer: just not enough bandwidth
[8:44]  CoolCat Whitman: @neener - You have to buy an island.
[8:44]  CoolCat Whitman: And be the estate manager
[8:44]  2B Writer: or sit at back out of peoples' view
[8:44]  neener Ferina: sound was a gig problem with bill- if he moved he went out of hearing distance
[8:44]  neener Ferina: that boy moves fast
[8:44]  2B Writer: i can send it to you Coolcat
[8:44]  2B Writer: oh, ctrl c usuall works
[8:44]  Zulima Button: yes, sound was bad
[8:44]  neener Ferina: i stopped chasing men when I got married
[8:44]  2B Writer: and anyone else who wants the chat
[8:44]  Zulima Button: lol
[8:44]  2B Writer: lol